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  1. Hello, I’m trying to install OS to system with no floppy, no working CD, used WinSetupforomUSB to make a USB stick but can’t get it to boot. AwardBios (2007) has options to boot from USB-FDD, USB-CD,USB-Zip. All of these give ntldr not found which I guess comes from HDD. I cannot see anything else in the BIOS that might affect things except ‘config table’ is disabled.
    Any ideas of what I can do?

    • Have you tried using PLOP at the initial boot screen?
      Does it even get to that point?
      Can also experiment with the varios auto-format options.

      What OS are you trying to install?

  2. I’m guessing the ntldr message is from the first sector in the partition. So plop should work if I can work out where the USB is.
    What does the WinSetupfromUSB stick look like to the computer FDD, HDD etc.
    I’m trying to install XP.

    • Program expects USB disk to be seen by BIOS as HDD.
      That’s controlled by the BIOS/PC, not by WinSetupFromUSB.

      These odd motherboards are just pain 🙂
      Search for USB-ZIP for other ideas and expirement with the various auto-format options. Can’t guide which one might work for this BIOS, it’s trial amd error.
      Can also try smaller USB stick, say 1 GB or 2 GB if you have such.

  3. So the first sector on the USB (512 bytes?) has a partition table?
    It is the BIOS thats odd.
    I seem to recall a floppy has a disk parameter table in the first sector. A CD has larger sectors.

  4. Ok, I finally got plop installed and recognized the USB key using UHCI, on host 4, port 1.
    I selected First part of setup from the grub menu.
    Then I got stuck at a screen that said: It seems plop has been loaded. Found 2 disks, set USB to hd1.

  5. greetings sir,
    once again thanks for your very nice tool 🙂

    now to the point, i am having a issue with two image/iso file. it is virus checking tool one form Kasperksy and another from Norton. as you/all know that virus signature/definition get updated very often even every single day, i frequent needs to download the updated iso file and overwrite the old one in the iso folder on my usb drive.

    but every time i do so, when i try to load those iso, it shows error message something like “images/iso need to be in continuous sector on usb drive”. it’s not the exact message but very similar to this. And the only solution is i have to de-fragment the whole drive to make it working 🙁

    few issues with this defragment:
    1. it takes so long to degrag the dirve as many iso is 4gb+
    2. defraing a usb drive is not good for it’s health
    3. some time, i forgot to defrag and on a important time it does not work that causes a big issue

    so, my question is isn’t there any way to update/overwrite the iso file without any issue/defragment? please?

    thanks in advance

    best regards

      • Apologies, I thought I had replied…

        ISOs need to be defragmented, no way around that. It’s down to Windows disk subsystem where file chunks are placed and can’t be controlled.
        If Norton is Windows based, try adding it as windows source, won’t need defragmentation that way.
        Doesn’t Kaspersky allow update once booted?
        Another possibility is to use larger disk with more free space, which will decrease the likelihood of file getting fragmented. You can also get faster USB disk where defragmentation is quicker, like external SSD disk or one of the quick USB sticks like Sandisk Extreme, the old model- SDCZ80-064G, they are still available here and there.

        • oh! man!! why apologize? no need at all:(

          you just rock at even helping others 🙂

          i was just in bit rush that why i bump the post..

          ok.. to the point..

          1. nope both kaspersky and norton is linux based iso

          2. sir, i know both can update it’s virus database after boot, but the problem is in here net connection speed is very limited and to where i generally serve could be even does not have any net at all. so, updating ISO is my best options/choice 🙁

          3. In that case, i think i should use separate usb drive just for those purpose. 🙁

          Note: Sir, is there any usb drive exits that single device work as 4 usb device, not 4 partition. like 4 head in 4 side and act as individual usb drive. Because caring 4 usb device is trouble some than having 1 device with 4 head or something like that?

          again thanks for reply back

          best regards

  6. Excellent software.

    When I add a Windows 10 setup ISO, I get the following in the menus:

    0 Windows NT6 (Vista/7 and above) Setup
    1 Second part/continue NT6 Setup (Boot first internal disk)

    Item 0 starts the Windows setup but item 1 doesn’t do anything. Is there a reason why it’s part of the menu? Can it be removed?


    • That’s supposed to boot the internal disk and usually works just fine, if there are no other internal disks or sd cards on the way.
      It’s there to hekp automate setup, as once you boot the first part, on next reboot second part is automatically selected and executed.
      And yes, can be removed by editing nmenu.lst i ln USN root.

      • Thanks for the reply.

        If I understand you correctly what happens is that Windows setup normally copies the files to the hard drive, the machine is rebooted and it then continues from the hard drive. I think you have to remove the boot media – USB, DVD etc.- otherwise, it starts the process again.

        Using a USB drive created with your software, what happens is Windows does the first bit of its setup (menu item 0) and if I leave the USB drive in there, it will then automatically select and run menu item 1 i.e. continue the setup from the internal hard drive?

        I was testing it on Hyper-V in Windows 10 which is probably why menu item 1 doesn’t do anything as I haven’t attached any drive.

        • That’s correct, it’s intended for unattended installs, so that once the setup copies files and reboots the PC, next boots happen from the internal disk and Setup can finish off the installation.
          Back in XP/2000 days there were lots of ways to customize sources using nLite etc. where basically you can make the whole setup process unattended.
          Similar options are available for lates Windows versions, but not sure if unattended setups are that widespread anymore.

          Mind you, that option is available only when started in BIOS mode, not in UEFI.

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